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talk with the ceos of google and youtube in a special town hall event revolution, google and youtube changing the world. coming up next on "the 11th hour with brian williams" a look at the biggest challenges inside the white house, protecting president trump from president trump. t "the 11th hour with brian williams starts now". president trump flies home back at the white house toting his successful trip but ignoring questions on robert mueller with the bombshell story he wanted him fired. the next big event in the russia investigation. steve bannon reportedly scheduled to be the next big interview for mueller. is it getting more difficult for the trump legal team or the trump west wing team to carry out the task of protecting the president from himself?
"the 11th hour " on a friday night begins now. well, good evening once again from our nbc news headquarters. day 372 of the trump administration. president back at the white house tonight after his trip to davos. he had a busy week including formally unveiling his latest immigration proposal delivering the first state of the union address as president and attempting a retreat with house and senate republicans. all of it now against this backdrop of the latest big story, the white house has been forced to react to "the new york times" exclusive last night that the president ordered the firing of robert mueller but for his white house counsel who said if he goes, i go and so it was never carried out. while "the times" broke the story, similar accounts and confirmations followed from nbc news,
"the washington post", fox news. today the president had the opportunity to respond to these reports. >> [ indiscernible question ]
>> did you want to fire robert mueller? >> fake news, folks, fake news. "new
york times" fake stories. >> did you want to fire robert mueller? >> the president's lawyers are still negotiating the terms of any interview between the president and mueller's team but a report says quote president trump's legal team has been studying a 1990s federal court ruling that could be the basis for delaying, limiting or avoiding an interview with special counsel robert mueller according to people familiar with the matter. in that case, a federal appeals court ruled presidents and closed a visors enjoyed protections against having to disclose information about their decision-making process or official actions. the court ruled prosecutors hoping to overcome arguments with presidential privilege must show such information contains important evidence that isn't available elsewhere. earlier tonight on this network, harvard law school constitutional law professor
lawrence tribe laid out his predictions of what could happen if trump were to refuse an interview. >> i think we are right on the verge of some kind of explosion. when miller says i want to interview you and trump after getting advice from his lawyers might say well, i really don't feel comfortable with it, if that's what he says. he will be ordered to appear. he will be subpoenaed. if he defies that subpoena, he will be defying a court order and that will lead to a constitutional explosion. >> weekly standard editor bill crystal gave his own theory as to why trump's legal team may delay here as much as possible. >> trump is scared of bob mueller. he will not testify to bob mueller and trump wants this investigation to be stopped or slowed down or impeded or made more difficult as much as possible. >> there is another high-profile witness slated to speak with the mueller team and that's steve bannon. a source familiar says telling
nbc news trump's former chief strategists is expected to meet with mueller's team by january 31st, that's wednesday of next week. bannon was quoted criticizing his family in the book "fire and furry" that left a number of people wondering what exactly bannon will tell the special prosecutor when that interview does take place. a lot to get to. a lot of questions. let's bring in the lead off panel for a friday night. white house reporter for p politico and u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york and executive director for colombia law school center for advancement of public integrity and form r federer federal prosa veteran for the civil rights program and a veteran of this network, as well. good evening to you-all. welcome to you-all. first things first, how important was this story last
night about trump's order not carried out to fire robert mueller legally? >> i think it's potentially huge. we know we need action and intent to get the obstruction case. there is lots of evidence implying that there was the intent when comey was fired, but this to me is a little bit of a clearer line between action and intent because you have bob mueller who is the special prosecutor, all he's doing is the russia investigation, right? you don't have other excuses about the hillary investigation and not running the burro the right way. so if in june, not even a month after mueller takes over so he can't possibly be mishandling anything, trump is ordering someone to fire him. it can only be to stop the investigation. of course, we want to know more about the conversation between mcgahn and trump, the reasons for the order would have been discussed between them and that's the big question here. to me, unlike the comey situation, it really can't be anything else. so i think there is a pretty
clean line of action to intent here and that's why i think it's enormous. >> do you agree with professor tribe and that scenario he laid out if the president tries to resist? >> i think so. we're in uncharted territory here. nobody really has refused before but it's certainly important evidence we can't get any other way. i have to think any court if presented with a president refusing to respond to a subpoena is going to order his appearance. >> great to see you again. owe told a producer we should keep our eye on the ball. define that for us. >> i think we're all focused on the obstruction because we're just learning now about the attempt to fire mueller and put together the obstruction. remember, mueller has known about this for weeks. the real question is not obstruction because at this point, it seems clear that there was an attempt. why? let's keep our eye on that.
why was trump willing to go by these extreme lengths to destroy and demolish the russia investigation. that's something he didoes not want mull tore find out and mueller probably does. >> matthew i'll take you back to the beat and repeat for the benefit afterwards the number of defiles about attempts to fire mueller. >> does the president commit to not firing robert mueller? >> the president has not even discussed that. the president is not discussing firing bob mueller. we are cooperating with -- he is not even discussed not -- he's not discussed firing bob mueller. >> is he going to rule out once and for all firing robert mueller. >> i'll address the second question first. the president said last week, i believe last week and several times before there is no intention or plan to make any changes in regards to the
special counsel. >> is he setting the stage for firing -- >> chuck, no, there is no -- >> there is no way? there is no way he's going to fire him. >> there is no conversation about that. >> for the 1,000th time, we have no intentions of firing bob mueller. >> so matthew, as you heard, there was no intention of firing bob mueller. what was the white house saying today because as we've learned from lawyer friends on this panel, this was a constitutional story. >> what is most spectacular is the silence saying as kellyanne conway saying in august, there is no discussion of firing bob mueller. trump ordered that in june. look, we know these aren't the most credible people but for something like this, it really is explosive to go back and see the times they denied this. there has been no official denial from the white house aside from the president calling it fake news. in that "new york times" article, something i thought was big, there was no don mcgahn in there saying this never happened
or declining to comment or anything like that. i think for a white house whose credibility is already in tatters, this is just sort of another hit to that. >> jennifer, i heard a lawyer on television tonight as the game goes on, "the new york times" says there were four sources on this story but i heard a lawyer say this is probably not a lawyer because of protextfessio responsibility. they did not think a leak like this could come from a lawyer. >> it wouldn't be a lawyer with an attorney client relationship with donald trump. >> good point. >> other than that, i mean, there wouldn't be any professional responsibility for a lawyer not acting in the capacity of a lawyer to, you know, keep that communication confidential. so i don't know why it wouldn't be someone who by profession is a lawyer. >> cynthia, a dual question for you. number one, not brought up a lot, what about mike pence?
and number two, if trump woke up tomorrow morning wanting above all to fire bob mueller, doesn't it at this point have to be for cause? >> well, what about mike pence number one. i guess is he will be interviewed before the president is interviewed and that will be a tip off for us that the presidential interview is coming or coming to ahead very soon. that would be my gut about pence. i don't -- i don't see how he fires -- i don't see how he could possibly fire mueller at this point. even the most weak need of the republican leadership, i think would actually balk at that. maybe i'm hopeful they will stand up for the rule of law. yes, it would have to be for cause and first you would have to fire rosenstein. there would be quite a series of events that would have to happen and seems impossible to me. >> jennifer, if you're team
mueller, what does it remind us? what is it you want to ask steve bannon? >> they want to ask steve bannon a lot of things. he was right there in the president's ear according to michael wolff's book you have contrary forces working in the white house but he was a powerful person talking to him and guiding him. so you just want to talk to him about a variety of things but the comey firing. i do think regardless of the fact that of course, ultimately, mueller wants to get behind the purpose of these firings and see what the russia collusion case is about, he's honing in on obstruction because it's a potentially clean, easier case to make in case he's fired or something happens. i think they will try to wrap it up first. they will talk to him about firing comey and certainly be talking to him about these other conversations around michael flynn that will be an important topic of conversation. while they talk about the russian stuff to some extent,
they will focus on the more obstruction related things. >> is it a prevailing view it's a little tighter, there is a little more control, maybe not overall of the president's utterances. >> that's right. there has definitely been a lot less in the way of which hunt tweets and accusations against mueller. we've seen less inside the white house of trying to dig up things about mueller's prosecutors and left that to sean hannity and his friends. donald trump is not someone whose known for his patience. so you hty cobb saying it would be over by thanksgiving, then new years now the next few weeks. the president hears this and will see this investigation is is not wrapping up and how long he can let that go on and follow the ty cobb strategy remains to be seen, especially because we know his instinct is not to sit back and let this continue. his instinct is to fight it.
>> let's inject fatigue, international travel and twitter. if we have the president's twitter post tonight. the president on his twitter account liked by indication the wall street journal story about his friend, steve wynn of las vegas, steve wynn the target of these sexual harassment allegations. story got powerful play today and widely distributed, it was just weird to see a like on behalf of the president of the united states. again, though, not known for restraint in this venue. >> right. with him and his phone after a long foreign trip, this is when he tends to get in trouble. these flights have not always been friendly to him. we remember on one of those they crafted the statement about don junior meeting with the russians to talk about aadoptions. it's no surprise to see him getting loose. >> his own doctor injected the
ambien factor as many travelers rely on it for overseas travel. jennifer, knowing what we know that the negotiation is going on with president's team and mueller's team, i ask you this every time you come on, where do you think we are in the scope of this investigation? >> well, i mean, i think we are getting to the end. they are starting to get closer and closer to the president. bannon is close to the president. they are getting to the important people. there is still a number of people to go. it will be awhile. i don't suspect that the president and his team will do too much to delay things. the article about the 1990s case and all of that because ultimately, it's not going to stop it. i do think that just dragging this out they realize it's not the best strategy for them. i think we will get to the president's testimony. i think it will be under oath and will happen sometime this year but i think we might still be a few months away. >> cynthia, you get the last
word. what form do you think it will be? video? do you think it will be in person and what do you make of the calendar and how far along they are? >> i think mueller is a man of rules and the department of justice rules are very clear that you don't want to do anything that would affect an election. i think he will try as much as possible to stay away from the november elections. that to me is some -- going to be some kind of guide. if at all possible, he will want to wrap this up early summer so that he can be as far as possible away from november. you know, i'm not sure i agree in the end trump is interviewed. i think he may -- all his friends are telling him not to do the interview. he thinks he can do anything with impunity and take five. there is not a lawyer in america that thinks he should do the interview. i wouldn't be surprised if there
is not a lot of bluster and in the end doesn't do it. >> what an interesting point to depart from this discussion with our thanks to matthew, jennifer rogers and to cynthia, we really appreciate all three of you starting off our conversation on a friday night at the end of a long week. as we approach the first break, the hercules task faced by don mcgahn and others of protecting the president from the president especially this president. and donald trump's fake news defense employed yet again today and yet another immigration deal appearing increasingly out of reach tonight on the hill. all of it when we continue. uncertainties of hep c. wondering, "what if?" i let go of all those feelings. because i am cured with harvoni. harvoni is a revolutionary treatment for the most common type of chronic hepatitis c. it's been prescribed to more than a quarter million people.
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in plain english, this exclusive continues to dominate the news and our conversation tonight and we know when president trump decided to fire special counsel mueller, it was white house counsel don mcgahn who ultimately stopped him as "the times" first reported after receiving the president's order, repeating order to fire mr. mueller, donald mcgahn refused to ask the justice department to dismiss the special counsel saying he would quit instead. it's not the first time the people around this president have stepped in to stop something that could cause great damage to him or the presidency, but while the president's staff tries to control the message, president trump made it quite clear he sees himself as his own spe spokesman. >> i presented to the president my concerns and those of deputy
attorney general rod rosenstein about the on going leadership issues about the fbi as state in my letter recommending the removal of mr. comey. >> what i did is i was going to fire comey, my decision. >> you made the decision before they came in the room. >> i was going to fire comey. >> he was very definitely attitudes and even the wall once we briefed him when i was at dhs. >> what we need is the wall is when we need to solve a tremendous border on the crime. we need a hall. >> the habit raises questions about the relationship with his staff, legal team at a sensitive time as he prepares to answer special counsel and reporter for
the "los angeles times." welcome to you-all. amber, what is the concern level i'm guessing you get asked this a lot especially among republicans whose names have to be on ballots in a few months. >> yeah, you're saying what is the concern level, which is the chaos in the white house right now? >> yeah. >> it is an 11 out of 10. i think that day to day we saw with a couple weeks ago in i'm dwra -- immigration, policy making is a total mess. you have a president for the past year creating drama and including and congress doesn't want to talk about it. they were hope thing week we were talking about trump and how
good the economy is doing and the tax bill. another incident i remember last year is right as the house republicans passed a bill that would allow trump to crack down on sanctuary cities, he tweeted about an msnbc morning joe host and the accusing her of getting her face redone. day of day of day banging their heads against the wall because they don't know what is going to come out of him and his twitter feed. >> david said he gave a half descent speech to a half descent reception but of course, everything was against this backdrop with the conversation. knowing what we know about chris ray and don mcgahn, talk a little bit about the consequences of serving this president. i guess it's not for the faint
of heart. >> they struggled to keep the reigns on the white house and decision making. i was in john kelly's office on wednesday night when all of a sudden, the door bursts open and in comes donald trump and we start asking questions and he blows the lid on a planned four-day rollout of the immigration plan, tells all the reporters that and i'm standing next to john kelly and i can tell by his body language that he, you next realizes he's going to have to go back to the drawing board and come up with a plan to clean up what the president just did. also, i heard john kelly when we asked president trump about mueller and whether he would be willing to testify and president trump said that he would love to, i heard a sigh from mueller, from john kelly standing next to me. he was really trying to keep a
straight face and not show emotion. this happens time and time again where kelly has been brought in. he really tries to organize the way the president gets information and come up with a systematic way for him to make decisions but the president undermines that day of day of day. >> did you find it curious or notable that john kelly, chief of staff to the president stayed behind on this trip? >> well, there is certainly a resistance among the president to being managed. i'm not sure that necessarily had to do with this. there was indications he might not have gone either way. the president's resistance to being managed overshadows any imperatives of his that messes up policy plans, messes up negotiations with the hill. >> the rollout planned for monday. he clearly had come from a briefing on it and spewed what he learned. >> exactly. john kelly who has some inherent tension with the president as
someone that lives and breathes streak tour on the president is a spontaneous free willing individual, one an in this can statements, writes things for trump in speeches, trump did not want to use that material on staff, when this staffer left, trump started to use the items more often in the speeches and statements. it reflects that he doesn't like it when other people steal his thunder and take credit. one of the differences between steve bannon and steve miller for instance of the same mind sethe issue of immigration. he started taking credit for things. any time he goes on air, it's about how wonderful the president is and how much of a genius he is. they read the prime directive well. >> our guests agreed to stick around. we'll sneak a break in. nobody will notice. coming up, we'll talk about the fake news defense that we heard
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say never considered it, never thought about it. fake news. >> he's been saying that. i think this report makes it very clear that, you know, this is just another example of a president indifferent to the truth. he looks at reporters with a straight face and says things that we know were flat out fals false. >> were you going to fire robert muell mueller? >> fake news. >> that was the response. it has become a go-to answer and a key part of a larger effort to diminish and erode the institution of a free press. at the forum this morning, the president went after the press in front of a crowd that included an international press core and there were audible boos in the room. >> as a businessman, i was always treated really well by
the press. the numbers speak. always had a really good press and not until i became a politician that i realized how nasty, how mean, how vicious and how fake the press can be. as the cameras start going off in the back. >> boo. >> more on that in a bit. he used the term fake news in his twitter feed many times. it evolved from there. >> the dishonest media, they are dishonest. you won't believe how dishonest. they are the most dishonest people. the majority are dishonest. >> despite the lies, misrep t misrepresentations, they could
not defeat us. >> the fake media tried to stop us from going to the white house but i'm president and they are not. >> you can talk all you want about russia which is a fake news fabricated deal to try and make up for the loss of the democrats and press plays right into it. the leaks are absolutely real. the news is take. >> fake news. this is going to be great for people. >> they have been fake news for a long time. >> general flynn is a wonderful man, i thinke eshe's been treat very, very unfairly by the media, as i call it, the fake media. >> i'm honored. it was fake news. a phony story. >> very good relationship. fake news. >> i don't know what newspaper you're reading but i guess that would be another example of as you say fake news. >> make sure you look up at real donald trump. our only way around the media. fake media.
>> we mains with us for this conversation, amber phillips, brian bennett. it didn't seem like the president was expecting to be booed from that audience. that line usually goes over well and he's usually used to facing a friendly crowd. >> he just delivered a speech about putting america first where he stayed on script, delivered it in measured tones, hadn't been booed and sits down and has q and a and immediately launches into a political attack on hillary clinton saying that the stock market would have gone down 50% if she were elected and found out they are vicious and fake and he was booed. and i mean, it's -- he reversed back into old habits quite quickly after delivering what was a pretty controlled speech. >> amber, when we talk about a chilling effect, when we talk about a corrosive effect of this phrase alone, talk about what
that means. >> yeah, it's a phrase that has consequences. i'm going to quote senator jeff flake who gave an entire speech on the senate floor about this the other week. and noted that there were dictators as far as bis singapo venezuela and leaders that used this phrase fake news to brush off very serious criticism about their humanitarian policies in addition to that, earlier this week, there was reported that a man had called up cnn and said i'm going to gun you guys down. this is fake news and used that phrase repeatedly. the parallels have to be drawn to one of donald trump's first press conferences in january of 2017. he looked right at a cnn reporter and said you are fake news. this is corrosive and it's jumping outside his twitter feed in a very real way especially
recently. >> you know it's not a long walk between fake news to the deep state and we have seen the deep state morph into conspiracies, especially just this week amng our colleagues in the media business. >> absolutely. there are two dimensions i look at the president's attacks on the media. one is the fact the end policy is lashing out at people who he feels afronted by. it's managed to serve him at least reasonably well. the other dimension is it serves to delegitimize this investigation in the minds of the voters. he polls at about 80% among the republican base. a poll last month showed as many as 80% of voters believe the mueller investigation into russia tampering and election is politically motivated to hurt president trump. this is hugely important because the verdict of what happens in this investigation may not be in
a court of law. it may be in a court of public opinion and leaders and congress will be scared of taking action against president trump if they believe their voters will retaliate against them for it. i don't think that's necessarily motivating the president. the last thing i would point out is president trump has always as a businessman in new york, he's been the king of the new york tabloi tabloids. he knew how to get the stories and knew how to manipulate it and moved to d.c. and dealt with a different crop of reporters who has been covering these issues for decades. part of it i think is he's lashing out at that. >> terrific conversation and thank you for participating. we appreciate it. coming up for us, why the fate of the d.r.e.a.m.ers is being caught up in a larger showdown again over immigration. that's when we continue. oh, the things we do to get ahead. rising before dawn.
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i want to solve the daca problem. i will consider that a great achievement to solve the daca program. these are good people. these are people that should be able to stay in this country. >> speaking to our friend of cnbc in switzerland, the president repeated his desire to find a solution to daca r recipients. for nearly 2 million undocumented immigrants an exchange for cuts in family based migration, what the president is fond of calling by the chain migration, the end of the diversity visa lottery and 25 billion with a b dollars for a border wall. today senate
rejected the proposal. this flies in the face of what most americans believe in turn. president trump fired back to schumer on twitter writing quote, daca has been made difficult by the fact crying chuck schumer took such a beating he is unable to act on immigration. let talk about it and with us to do that tonight, alan gomez and u.s. immigration reporter and christina, manager of politics at the l.a. times. are you telling me that this is going to become mashed potatoes again and we're in for another showdown over immigration while d.r.e.a.m.ers kanld of wait in the balance? >> it gets there.ind of wait in the balance? >> it gets there. there is an unfortunate reality, if something were to be able to pass the senate because comprehensive immigration reform passed the senate before under a
different parties and different leaderships and with republican support. in the house republicans do not have a unified voice on this. if they wanted to pass something, republicans need to work with democrats, democrats feel like they can't trust president trump. last night there was a debate for the gub -- gubernatorial candidates, talking to the most democrat take liberal base in los angeles and they will not stand for a deal like this. especially when you see democrats believe they have a chance at winning back control of the house this fall in the midterms, they are not going to cooperate with the president and give away something they say they feel very strongly about, no border wall and don't mess with the other families. the whole point for them is that you're breaking apart families there that want to help this one
group of people. they don't want to hurt a different group of families to do that. that's what the democrats are saying. >> let me employ an lbj term. what about the good government types? the good government tiypes that want to see immigration reform. >> there is a lot of them there. we're seeing a lot of the same voices on the republican side there during the 2013 immigration debate when they passed the bill through the senate. lindsey graham, jeff flake had been advocating for this. one of the remarkable things is unify both sides in opposition of this deal. you mentioned check schumer, there is blow back from the democrats but it's been unanimous from the republican side opposing this buecause of how many d.r.e.a.m.ers it protects. the senate for immigration studies which is a conserzesser
group that wants to reduce immigration dubbed it the art of the choke from a group at first willing to provide scitizenship to 800,000 d.r.e.a.m.ers. once it ballooned up, all of a sudden, all these groups ran away saying this is is getting out of control and too much for us to handle. >> i want to -- we've asked our guests to stuck around. we'll take a quick break and when we come back, president trump criticized by a fellow republican and one-time rival who at the same time had a warning for the wider gop. our discussion continues right after this. when you look at the mercedes-benz glc... with its high-tech cameras and radar, contemporary cockpit, 360 degree network of driver-assist technologies and sporty performance what's most impressive about the glc?
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chief we need to keep our country safe. >> two things here, first of all, doesn't that feel like it was about ten years ago and s , second, remember how they got along? jeb bush repeatedly warned of the down falls of a trump presidency when he was running for the gop nomination in return, he earned the nickname low energy and a life in political retirement at home in florida. in a new interview with allen gomez of "usa today", jeb bush again sounding alarm bells about now president trump. he says republicans are in for beating in the midterms if congressional races focus on the president's character telling the paper quote, if the election is nationalized and it's not about the economy, then we'll lose. he also criticized trump more directly saying quote, the character of the guy and the turnover in fighting and the constant chaos around his presidency, that is
self-inflicted has made it hard for him. i want the president to succeed. i don't think he will succeed if he continues on this path. alan gomez and is he content with his life these days? >> he absolutely says he is. i've been trying to get him to sit down with me for several months now. he finally agreed to do so yesterday. sorry, days are very long these days. and he just -- you know, we were just talking about the state of the party, the state of the one-year anniversary of president trump being inaugurated and he was more focused on the future, looking at the mid-terms and worrying about what this trump effect will be and saying that if candidates are able to folks on the economy, on things going on in their district, that they should fare pretty well because
of how well the economy is doing right now but how hard the president is making that if he continues to generate these kind of headlines. and i'll tell you, it was interesting, i interviewed him during the morning. i get back to my office, i'm writing up my notes, i'm transcribing the interview and i'm at that part where he needs to start with all these dad hba headlines and that's when the "new york times" story breaks. i'm sitting there thinking, yeah, i'm sure jeb's a little bit more upset now than he was this morning. >> that's why every day feels like a year. christina, you could make an argument that jeb bush feels much more of a custodial sense, a sense of stewardship over his party than the president elected under the banner of the republican party in office. talk about the concern level you are sensing perhaps just among california republicans but among all those republicans who are going to be on a ballot in 2018
who may not be -- who may be more encumbered against free speech to say how they're feeling. >> we just did the poll that came out last friday, republican versus democrats, the democrats have an 11-point advantage and there's one reason and his name is president trump. so the party is definitely worried about this. it one reason you've seen a lot of retirements. but have i to say that jeb bush was all over the place. you heard that chaos candidate moment came but there was a point where he actually the party rooting for him privately and was changing his tune on immigration, talking about anchor babies, not always taking it to trim, which clearly he felt and he's not the same kind of republican that president trump is and there is a moment where republican leadership could have stopped his candidacy had they said some of the things that they say now that some of
the things that senator flake had said since he's not running for reelection, jeb bush could be president. it's easier fort the party to look backward and sa moment to say we'd rather have a president clinton than a president trump. >> i think that was very fair. do you get any intention that he's going to run for anything ever again? >> he left that little door open when i asked that question. he says he's very happy, he's celebrating his, what is it, 43rd wedding anniversary next month, he's got four grandchildren, he plays a lot of golf down here, he's doing a lot of work on an education foundation he's working on, he
runs investment firms. he says he's happy, quote, life is good but he left the door open and didn't unequivocally say he's not going to run. >> my thanks to you both. really appreciate it. coming up after our last break, the curious case of melania trump, one half of the first couple, when we continue. hold together. a little to the left.
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>> it was going to be delivered by a household name, which in fairness turned out to be half right when we learned 37-year-old congressman joe kennedy iii had been given the nod, the great nephew of jfk, son of joe jr., the congressman, joe kennedy iii, can etell he's e -- you ever tell he's irish, has barney frank's old seat in the congress. it's seen as an attempt by the dems to return to their so-called core brand. the state of the trump marriage has been in the news after their 13th wedding anniversary passed without public mention, after melania cancelled her trip to
davos with her husband and showed up instead alone at the holocaust museum in washington and flew unannounced to the mar-a-lago home in florida. the story broke on the "daily mail" and said since the storm y daniels story broke, she has been staying at their home in florida. and the never trump republican ohio governor john kasich is going to new hampshire, and this is right about the time when we noticed when anyone in politics has travel plans to new hampshire. he's been a rumored primary challenger to trump. you may recall he tried and failed to beat him last final around. to be fair, his new hampshire trip is not planned to involve any diners or dairy farms,
rather a fireside discussion of politics on a college campus. that's going to wrap it up for our broadcast on a friday night and after this long week, thank you so much for being here with us. have a great weekend and good night from nbc news headquarters here in new york. so earlier this month, just a couple of days into the new year, a very odd and dramatic thing happened in washington, d.c. the deputy attorney general of the united states, rod rosenstein, basically the supervisor of the special counsel in charge of the russia investigation and the fbi director, chris wray, made an unannounced visit to capitol hill. reporters there spotted rosenstein entering paul ryan's office and ryan's spokesperson confirmed the deputy attorney general and the fbi director had requested the meeting. and what made this unannounced meeting particularly dramatic was that at that moment the justice department was in the middle of this really big ugly fi